TAF/TAP TSI

Comment from Martin Schmidt (SBB Cargo International AG): 

As SBB Cargo International we welcome the idea to integrate timestamps for intermodal transports in TAF TSI and with this in TRI message. Out of our perspective as RU the text provided in the CR under Purpose is misleading. We define the HLR as the moment when the train or wagon together with all documents are released for transport. Normally it is after the check of a wagon master but this depends on the terminal. It is the moment when the wagon or train is allowed to be moved out of the terminal.

The MAD on the other hand is the moment when the wagon or train is handed over with all its documents to the terminal. This is after the arrival at the terminal and it’s the moment, when the legal responsibility is handed over to customer or terminal.

Out of our perspective, there is no European wide agreed definition for HLR and MAD, because it depends on the partners, the type of transport and the local conditions.

Because of this, we could not support the proposed solution and we would like to raise three objections:

1. The proposed solution covers only single wagon transports and it’s not efficient for block trains.
2. The proposed solution defines HLR and MAD on movements, which is not reflecting the local conditions and the contractual agreements.
3. The proposed solution uses existing status, which could be misleading for other modes of transport and if the original purpose should be transmitted as well.

We propose to add two new running status elements, which can be used for HLR and MAD independent from movement and as well as for trains and wagons.

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Based on a request by UIRR Eric Feyen

"We want to put CR 353 on hold until we have from EDICT a more complete set of (harmonised) milestones for terminal operations. That means ca 6 months."

After check with Eric : for SNCF Réseau Planning and Operations, we agree with this CR. TrainActivity seems indeed the relevant element to convey this information if needed (we don't plan to use it yet - maybe in future for path construction)

Trafikverket supports this CR

Adif agrees with this CR.

Adif agrees with this CR.